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  • son, oil his my treat I cannabis to who give is AMA! 7, Autism.
  • Is CBD Oil Safe for Kids?
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  • Background: Son has pretty severe autism. He's a twin, but my other son is NT. - He doesn't speak other than maybe a dozen words, and only. If you're researching CBD oil for a child with autism, read our article to learn about CBD is recommended as a treatment for conditions such as Our chart will give you an idea of where to start with your child based on his or her weight. 80% of participants who were treated for 7 months with ratio of. Some parents even say giving their child the oil has helped with autism and seizure disorders. But is RELATED: 7 CBD Oil Products That Can Help Moms.

    son, oil his my treat I cannabis to who give is AMA! 7, Autism.

    I am about to try medical marijuana for my 14 you son with severe anxiety which becomes anger outburst. Does anyone have an idea of what strains and delivery method is best for this?

    Me and My wife need your Help. We just learned that our almost 3 year old son has ABD….. We are thinking to try CBD as well, but still researching this option, not sure what CBD oil we can try with our child. I read stories here where moms tell stories about a kid cured using CBD oil and this gives us a huge breath of hope and belief, please share your experience in numbers and names, in locations and dosage, not just stories but useful information, please that would really help.

    Please help us with an advise or with whatever you can in our fight agains Autism. Thank you in advance. I like the CBD from cannabis rather than hemp, provides more terpenes and benefits than industrial hemp.

    Dosage varies — depends on weight, tolerance. Experimentation is really the only way to find out. I get mine from amastoned. Have tried 6 different seizure Medes without good and even horrifying side effects.

    Had craniotomy last year and struggle with seizures. Severe depression and panic attacks. What type of marijuans strands is recommended. Jennifer, I recommend watching our cannabis webinar. The medical cannabis strains for epilepsy are suggested by medical cannabis doctors. However, there are different names for each drug.

    While I wish I could, the sad fact is that this is a big game. All I want is my child to be seizure free. And not be suffering. Can you recommend any additional strains? Here in Colorado the variety is immense and confusing because the sales people are mostly just rumor mongers. However, something you wrote really bothered me as a mental health professional and relative of individuals who have ASD. It is a functional and structural difference in the brain.

    Symptoms can be managed and treated, but not recovered from. He will always have some struggles, and you must recognize that as his mother. You can only teach him and help him function, and help the symptoms. Individuals with ASD are unique and can bring new about changes. Just look at some of the great minds many believe had ASD like Einstein.

    Jess, there is NO evidence that autism is a fully genetic disorder. You have been listening to the wrong people. Study after study has shown that genetics can only possibly account for about half of autism.

    This is just one of the many studies http: There have been case after case of children who have recovered completely. Raun Kaufman was diagnosed as profoundly autistic before he was two years old. In his case, it worked. Completely and utterly, and you would know that if you saw him give one of his dynamic lectures that he gives all over the country in his role as the Director of Global Education at the Autism Treatment Center of America.

    Frankly, I find that ridiculous. I hear others have managed it, and I aspire to what they have achieved because I would rather NOT have asthma than have asthma. But because some people feel that way does not mean that they should get to define life for others with the condition. You might want to read this piece which covers many of the medical aspects of autism very well: The fact that those conditions are part of the picture for a large segment of the autistic population means that autism is not a separate genetic mental condition from the rest of the symptoms that are clearly the result of overall toxic burden.

    If you reduce the toxic burden, you can reduce autism symptoms and behaviors. You are basing your conclusion on a lousy premise: My son Nic is severely autistic non verbal. And we recently found out he several other health problems.

    Including Still active stage 3 liver disease with bridging fibrosis. He was on one from the time he was 3 till now 9. We live in Pa although it is legal here. How can I get around this. Poor Nic is loosing his mind! I really need more info on the exact type, breed, generation of the plants that help autistic people get rid of the severe anxiety they suffer from.

    And he also has severe muscle spasms. And he needs to eat more. We were in the hospital all July. By the time I can go to a dispensary here it will be to late! How can I get this NOW! Hi LeighAnn, the situation is enormously complicated, and the lowdown I hear is that no one in Pennsylvania is likely to be too much help, though I will email you the phone number of someone who might be able to give you some info.

    Sorry, gotta jump in here. I have two children diagnosed with severe autism. My child is cured and while I love my children with or without autism I wish for them to function at their highest potential. Most autism families I know want the same thing. Autism is not the cool, nerdy, trend that some people think should be celebrated. Not when you are scraping poo out of the crevices of your wood floor, dealing with bruises and blood from head banging, watching your child writhe in pain from intense chronic GI upset.

    I know plenty of autism families who have been doing just that for years and now are worried about how to transition their child to a group home when they are too old to care for them. When the diversity movement shows me one person who is non verbal and in diapers that communicated the desire to keep themselves just exactly as is for perpetuity then I will take your agenda more seriously.

    Remember, my daughter was severely autistic, recovered, had her diagnosis removed and is now cured. She vividly remembers and describes what autism was like and she states very emphatically that she is grateful to be cured of autism. And by the way, there is no such thing as a genetic epidemic. And nope, not one single family member with any type of cognitive dysfunction in any side of the family. I have to kids 16,12 that both have been on seizure meds and very autistic both are very moderate cognitive border severe.

    Im not getting any younger and takin care of them seems to bet getting harder. Please let me know if you got any answers to your question of how to start the treatment. Need help in getting start our journey with cannabis. Buy some from someone you trust or grow your own plants.. And the same thing happened with the Valenzuela family. In a recent interview, they detailed the difficulties their son encountered growing up. Sadly, the anxiety of social interaction was simply too much for him at times and would cause him to act irrationally.

    However, after they turned to the use of medical Cannabis, he showed incredible improvements. And now, as a result, they have confidence that their son will absolutely be able to live out his dreams and have a full and wonderful life. What is it and how does it work? First off, for all inquiries about treating Autism or any condition for that matter. Read more Read less. Customers who viewed this item also viewed. Page 1 of 1 Start over Page 1 of 1.

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    Gifting of the Kindle edition at the Kindle MatchBook price is not available. I would give a non-toxic substance to someone, if it made them feel better or gave them otherwise unavailable hope.

    But why not offer them love and compassion instead of lying to them? A ride to the doctor's office, clean their house or cook them a meal? Some obey it out of common sense Then they are not "obeying the law", they are just acting out of common sense-- the same as if there were no such law on the books.

    There's no law against touching a hot stove Some people "obey the law" not out of fear of the actual punishment dictated by the law, but because they have an Authoritarian psychology-- that is, they experience negative feelings if they "break the rules". That's how "morality" often works. Common sense follows a law just one that the precedent may or may not be on books. I obey the law in the eyes of the law and society whether out of fear or common sense so the pragmatist in me doesn't care.

    Your summary was very helpful for me in understanding where we are currently at in this debate. I'm tired of how people don't understand that autistic people have reasons for a lot of their behaviours. There are many autistic adults, even non-speaking ones, who can give a lot of insight into autistic behaviours but no, we can't have autistic people having a say about autism, can we?

    No, it's all about forcing things like ABA that a lot of autistic people consider abusive and unhelpful or forcing all kinds of nonsense on them. Though, i do wonder if reefer would cause me to calm my tits and not get so constantly obsessed with things that frustrate me like this concept of tormenting autistic people for their own good.

    Well, I think you should read 59, which is a very clear statement of the situation. This stuff you are saying about. As a doctor or a pharmacist, though, there is an ethical dilemma when recommending something that may not hurt but is not shown to help. It means a great deal to me and I wish it mattered to more.

    Which is why I hold Orac in high regard. I'm sure we disagree on many things but he is attempting to hold the line in defense of his profession and I find that very admirable. Give it a try if you can. Plus stoners are more accepting of autistic people, so the companionship within a club environment is fantastic.

    Compared to the disappointment and frustration of mainstream medical services for autistics the difference was like night and day. Becca 16 Adults with autism who use cannabis: You wont find us on your autism forums and in your autism groups because we are just getting on with life amongst the human race instead of hanging out in rainbow jigsaw land.

    You wont find out about us because cannabis is illegal, duh, and we don't have autism so we are not going to loudmouth it everywhere. You wont find out about us because moderators love to censor autistic adults.

    Ditto talk of cannabis. You wont find out about us because if we were to boast that cannabis was fixing our autism, we would be admitting to having autism, and that defeats the object, which is not to have autism, which is why we use cannabis. I share some of the same concerns as other readers here. In an ideal world we would absolutely have multiple independent clinical trials. THC is obviously the concern being cited in terms of brain development.

    Unless there is a claim that these oils often with greater amounts of CBD than THC are potentially more harmful than pure THC itself, then these arguments in regards to brain development are somewhat moot.

    This seems likely to be the reason that pediatric neurologists working with many of these parents including Dr. Harry Chugani, and Dr. Jules Constantinou, both support this policy. The denial of this policy only serves to ensure that their involvement remain limited, which stifles the possibility for sound research to be conducted, and guarantees that families are truly on their own.

    Flimsy preclinical evidence leading to mass experimentation. From an outside perspective I can appreciate how this policy might be interpreted this way. Rather, legal protections for families choosing to explore these options as a last-line therapy when two certified physician with bonafide relationships with the patients have agreed that it may provide palliative relief is being sought.

    Chugani and Constantinou have provided care to some of these patients, and their support for this policy is based off of their clinical expertise combined with the next best external source of evidence.

    In this case that happens to be preclinical research by in large. A large number of families currently utilizing these therapies have been willing to come forward. Undoubtedly, a greater level of involvement from experts would be preferred. It only prevents the experts from playing a larger role in these therapies.

    Should they be arrested for that? Once again, anecdotes don't show that something works. This is not limited to parents, but to physicians who have been fooled as well. Clinical expertise without clinical trial evidence often misleads, and clearly Dr. Chugani doesn't realize that.

    A lot of doctors don't, unfortunately. What Michigan is on the verge of approving is, in essence, legalizing what is currently a form of autism biomed quackery. Bogler and Stone's recounting of the "evidence" for medical marijuana for autism is risible in the extreme, purely cherry picked. At best, it's evidence for further preclinical study. At worst, it's a justification for quackery, prematurely extrapolating from preclinical evidence that might or might not be relevant to autism.

    Nobody is denying that clinical trials are the gold standard, but to suggest that off-label meds aren't commonly in use that haven't been studied with autism the way you're describing would be inaccurate, or disingenuous. Constantinou is also an avid supporter.

    Not giving any weight to the parents on their own is one thing, but when the specialists involved with providing care agree that the cannabis therapies delivered undoubtable value, you at the very least expect them to be able to exclude any other interventions being utilized. This policy ensures the role of two qualified physicians in these therapies, rather than the families doing this on their own as they have been up to this point. Are your homeopathic examples accompanied with preclinical evidence suggesting a role for them in targeting the system involved in the pathophysiology of the condition?

    Has the water been documented preclinically to reduce cognitive deficits associated genetic variances commonly associated with the condition it miraculously treated? Is there clinical and preclinical evidence describing the physiological mechanisms involved with this underlying system, and the pharmacological usefulness of your water in targeting the system in order to provide palliative relief for the most common ailments associated with the condition?

    Are there multiple experts that specialize in their field that have concluded that the water is of therapeutic value through the act of providing care for individuals that have utilized water therapies? Are people being arrested for using that water?

    Off-label use is defined as using a drug that is already FDA-approved for an indication other than the one that the FDA approved it for, usually based on clinical trial evidence suggesting its efficacy and safety for the off-label indication. Since cannabis oil is not FDA-approved for anything resembling autism and, even if it was, there is no good clinical evidence that cannabis oil is efficacious in autism, your use of an analogy to off-label prescribing is what's disingenuous, not my post.

    They're suggesting that parent who can get two doctors to sign off on it should be allowed to use medical marijuana on their autistic child without anything resembling what I would consider proper medical oversight. As for doctors other than Chugani, the same thing applies as what I said above. In a condition like autism, personal clinical experience can be very misleading, thanks to confirmation bias remembering what supports your belief and forgetting what does not, or remembering the "hits" and forgetting the "misses" , placebo effects, observation bias, etc.

    It is because, especially for conditions like autism, even experts can be fooled, that randomized clinical trials, preferably double-blinded, with outcome measures as objective as possible are needed. As for your bit about homeopathy, you're misunderstanding Bayes' theorem and exaggerating the quality of the preclinical evidence for medical marijuana in autism, which is thin gruel indeed.

    But if you want another example, I can find glowing testimonials in autism for secretin, chemical castration by lupron, bleach enemas, and a wide variety of supplements. Based the fact that one of those off-label drugs is pure THC, I think my analogy is perfectly acceptable. Unless the claim is that botanical extracts with greater CBD: In large part, CBD is the additional cannabinoid being added in comparison to current Marinol treatments.

    Yes, two physicians are required for approval. We seem to agree that more research should be conducted. This policy provides the legal framework for more robust research. While the paper being cited doesn't fully delve into the specific mechanisms involved with each individual type of palliative relief that the cannabinoids present in botanical extracts from cannabis can provide in symptoms associated with autsim, that doesn't mean that more evidence isn't available.

    The preclinical evidence in regards to the genetic variances has been provided, and preclinical in vivo experiments have documented CBD as reducing the cognitive deficits associated with FXS in mice. It seems to me that you likely take issue with the MMMA itself. Medical cannabis laws allow for the use of non FDA approved cannabinoids for the purpose of providing palliative relief in a number of medical conditions.

    It seems that possibly by your standards that none of the currently accepted conditions that qualify for medical cannabis should be allowed. This too seems to be a separate issue from this policy specifically. MMMA is a compassionate law enacted to protect patients, families, and physicians that participate in cannabis based therapies for the purpose of palliative relief. If you don't approve that's an issue to take up with the voters.

    The fact still remains that there is ample evidence in regards to cannabinoids therapeutic value in terms of palliative relief in symptoms associated with severe cases of autism. As the director of the Autism Alliance of Michigan, Stephen D'Arcy, stated in written testimony provided to the panel: This is in fact a form of discrimination against our citizens with autism.

    As with other pharmacological products we expect that physicians authorized to prescribe medical marijuana will pursue appropriate medical pathways in exploring the possible use of this drug in the autism community.

    You can find glowing testimonials for 'secretin, chemical castration by lupron, bleach enemas,' coming from autistic adults, not just your darling parents?

    Sceptical now, impressed later maybe? It seems that pot will treat everything from diabetes to hypoglycemia, anorexia to obesity, and constipation to diarrhea. Truly a wonder drug. I'd say the bigger story is the fundamental role that the endocannabinoid system plays in human health and disease.

    It's an absolute fact that its discovery is leading to a greater understanding of the pathophysiology of a number of conditions, and appears to be a potential therapeutic target in the treatment of many of them.

    Additionally, natural compounds that target the endocannabinoid system are vastly prevalent throughout nature, not just cannabis. Though this paper is now outdated , it's provides a decent overview: Endocannabinoid Signaling in Autism. So, a very interesting discussion all around, and we still don't have an answer to the underlying logical flaw in Orac's position:. If, as Orac would like, pot is legalized, then the major impediment to his parade of horribles, with parents experimenting and so on, is removed.

    Now, I doubt pot is a "universal wonder drug", but that's irrelevant. In fact, there would likely be additional legal impediments. If marijuana was legalized, any responsible law doing so would restrict children from using it much like is currently the case with alcohol.

    A parent giving their child marijuana would likely face similar consequences to a parent supplying minors with alcohol. We do not have a great understanding of the effect of cannabis on the development of children. It's entirely possible that this treatment could have negative effects and there is no good evidence that there is benefits. Experimenting with such a treatment, especially in a particularly vulnerable population is highly unethical.

    It seems to me that Orac is the only one who has the childrens' welfare in mind. My understanding of Orac's underlying principle or concept is that of science based medicine. Medical treatment should be that most likely to produce a positive outcome; the way we know what treatments provide the most positive outcome is through science.

    A second principle is one of professionalism. Part of professionalism, as I read it, is not lying. Telling people that, say, marijuana has proven medical uses - based on his reading of the research - untrue.

    I don't see a principle there. You need to articulate it in a way that we can test its application-- compassionateobserver [in the future to be referred to as CO] makes good points about off-label drugs and the fact that there are qualified MD participating as much as possible given legal constraints. But that seems to be what these quacks are advocating with using marijuana to treat autism and what Orac is against. You seemed to suggest that Orac's position on legalizing marijuana is at odds with his position that using it to treat autism is a bad idea.

    There would be additional legal impediments relative to a world where it is legal to give children marijuana in the name of treating autism. Apologies for not being more clear that that is what I meant. You, really are disappointing in the way you portrayed me and my family. More from the aspect of trying to place words in my mouth and the simple conclusion of any research I've done, or steps I've taken to vet the possibility of treating my son with sever autism.

    You left out that I also stated it may not be a silver bullet, it may not help him and I'll continue to seek other alternative treatments as well. It took my family a lot to just come out and speak and advocate for the option - that we currently don't have legally.

    My wife was very brave in doing so and yes, it made us vulnerable to selfish, outspoken egotistic people like you. It's easy to armchair an opinion on what I think or should be doing or where I get my information from behind a computer and I can see you have some real passion for the topic.

    Maybe try to put it to good use? Maybe you should have come to the meetings and expressed your concerns and support publicly and have it on record. But that would involve more effort on your part that would also open you up and make you vulnerable to other trolls of the opposing sides.

    But I'd love to invite you over to do so, let me know. Then you can come away with some real experience as a part-time parent and voice judgement on those who only wish to help their child's development, communication and pain. Be very careful which cage you poke a stick in, you don't know me apart from what journalists crafted for they're audience.

    Although I haven't encountered you personally before, I have encountered many parents like you with autistic children who are desperate to do anything they can to help their children. Unfortunately, many of them fall under the spell of what is commonly known as "autism biomed," which consists of alternative treatments with little or no evidence behind them that range from supplements, to hyperbaric oxygen chambers, to chelation therapy, to secretin, to bogus stem cell therapies, to homeopathy, to, yes, what are in essence bleach enemas.

    I linked to some of my posts about such quackery before in my post above, but here are a handful of examples. Note that, if you read only one other posts, please read the one at the very end of this comment, because it is the most relevant to what I'm trying to communicate. If you are willing to read more, I offer these three in addition to the one at the end:.

    As I discussed in depth above, medical marijuana for autism has been embraced by the autism biomed movement. It is not surprising, given that there is no convincing evidence that it works, and it is basically another herb or supplement that parents in this movement have pinned some of their hopes on. In your story, as portrayed in the news and as you relate it now, I see you in these parents. You describe yourself as investigating medical marijuana and other alternative treatments, just like these parents investigate a variety of treatments.

    Indeed, medical marijuana has become quite firmly part of the autism biomed movement. Now, please don't take this the wrong way. You might be insulted by what I'm about to say next, but that's not my intent.

    What I am about to say applies to every single person alive on this planet today, including myself. We all make these mistakes because that's how our brains are wired. The main difference between a skeptic and the rest of humanity is that a skeptic knows he has these cognitive shortcomings that lead to error and can thus try to avoid them.

    Unfortunately, for most people it is very hard to hear this. Most people take this information as insults or personal attacks. When people invest so much into something as parents doing autism biomed do for the sake of that which they love the most, their children , it's very hard for them to separate their identity from the decisions they've made.

    I've made the same mistake myself on occasion, lashing out at people who, I later realized, had brought up legitimate criticisms of my words or actions. That being said, every parent using the treatments I mention above believes that he or she has thoroughly researched it and come to a rational conclusion to try it. Every single one of them thinks he or she has become knowledgeable enough about the science to render a valid judgment, regardless of whether he or she has the background necessary to understand the science.

    Every single one of them. Many of them come to believe that these treatments work, even though many demonstrably do not. That's because people confuse correlation with causation, tend to remember the times when something appears to have worked and forget the times it has not.

    There are placebo effects. There are so many confounding effects that lead parents to believe that something has worked when it has not. Even physicians are not immune to this, which is why a depressing number of physicians come to believe that autism biomed works and offer it. Indeed, physicians can be among the worst, because they sometimes fall under the illusion that their training inoculates them from these cognitive shortcomings and their clinical observations are not affected by the same problems that we all are.

    I'm a doctor, and I constantly struggle with this issue. I also struggle to get other physicians to understand and admit that they can fall prey to this too.

    The bottom line is that nowhere near enough evidence, preclinical or clinical, exists to support the use cannabis oil or medical marijuana in children with autism. I don't think you're a bad guy. I know you love your children, just as much as the many parents doing autism biomed love their children. But this is the wrong way, in my opinion, and I won't stop voicing this opinion.

    There's a reason why the autism biomed movement so easily embraced medical marijuana; the two are basically the same. I'll conclude with this. If you won't believe me, listen to one of my inspirations years ago, a man named Jim Laidler. He is a physician with two autistic children. See what finally brought him out of the autism biomed movement. See if you don't recognize yourself in him:. You're not alone, nor are you unique in your love for your child.

    I have seen you before in many other parents. Go back and read I know you don't want to agree with me about anything but that is M O'Brian giving a good analysis. The question is, is it more likely in a world where pot is legal that someone will experiment with treating their severely autistic child somehow, with oils or whatever. The answer is obviously yes.

    In traditional chinese herbal medicine there are many contraindications for paediatric herb use. Both trades used cannabis with people of all ages. One wonders why there ware no paediatric contraindications for cannabis in the fossil record? Could it be that xillions of children treated with cannabis over thousands of years did ok?

    Is it okay for me to say that giving children with autism untested drugs, especially the types that affect the brain? My son has autism, and there are many more who post here that either are autistic or have family members who are autistic. I was going to mention that in my reply to Mr. Indeed, I implore Mr. Zahringer to listen to my readers who do have autistic children. There are quite a few of them who read and comment here. Ask them about my history.

    Just because I criticized medical marijuana for autism and the Michigan Medical Marijuana Review Panel's decision harshly does not in any way mean I was attacking parents. Please provide the PubMed indexed verifiable statistics of these case studies. The plural of anecdote is not data. Chris 99 I confess to not having the data to hand and don't feel inclined to go looking for the references for you.

    Let's talk about something else? Why don't you reply to one of my other comments instead? Seeking faster progress, they found medical marijuana and latched on to it for hope: My son could not speak as a three year old, and it wasn't until he was five when he could utter a short sentence. He started speech therapy when he was two and a half, special ed. So at least ten years of speech, plus the special ed. He does speak, but it is not quite normal.

    When he was twenty three years old he ended up in the hospital with what we thought was a stroke he also has a genetic heart disorder , but fortunately turned out to be a complex migraine. After he recovered the hospital staff flagged his speech, and he was referred for six weeks more speech therapy. It will take lots of work, and there are no shortcuts.

    Giving your child drugs needs to be done with the utmost caution. Though I speak as someone whose child has a history of seizures and migraines. One of the seizures was while he was sick and very dehydrated, which really screwed up his electrolytes.

    Trust me you do not want to muck with your kid's brain chemistry. Where can I find the list of FDA approved medications that are OK for adults but cannot be given to children because of the deleterious effects those drugs have been proven to have on developing minds?

    Because that was the only one I understood. You made a claim, therefore you need to provide verifiable evidence for those claims. As the article said, you don't just give kids some random chemical without any clinical trials. So you made this speculative claim: There is no reason to discuss it or believe it has ever happened until you cough up the evidence.

    You just can't make stuff up and try to make us believe it is true. It's so sad that we have teenage girls with autism drinking 10 or more cans of Monster energy drink every day. Is it more dangerous than cannabis? Is it less dangerous than xanax? Is that less dangerous than alcohol? Now, Orac, as he says, does not intend to insult or disparage parents with that observation. But it does indicate how much he values your opinion, right? I value Chris' opinion because Chris can always back that opinion up with facts and science.

    Personally, I would make many of those energy drinks illegal for children. They don't need the caffeine. Chris provided personal anecdote. I see zero difference from what people "on the other side" have provided.

    MI Dawn there is so much that doesn't make sense. We positively encourage children with autism to do horse riding which has no evidence to back it up and is far more dangerous than cannabis, not to mention elitist and inaccessible. Same example again but instead of Monster energy drinks, the teenage girl has a different choice: Long term harms of cutting are unremarkable.

    We don't see this but it is there Master Chris. Chris has been a commenter here since almost the beginning, over ten years ago and has taught me things.

    I've observed Chris's contributions and ability to back up assertions with evidence many years before you ever darkened this blog's comment section. Sadmar, I have reading Orac's writings for well over ten years, starting at misc. I have learned not only to use facts and science, but also how to separate the good from the bad. Ten years ago I took what I learned from reading Orac plus the JREF forums and the Heathfraud listserv to write a "Chelation is Bad" email to the disability listserv where that was being heavily promoted for our kids.

    I received lots of nasty grams, and no support from the moderators. So I unsubscribed from that list. Then one week later this happened: My question on why Mr.

    Zahringer was because it seemed he presumed all parents with disabled children know what is best for their children. Actually many of us do not have a clue. I am willing to admit that. Which is why I value learning how to evaluate claims from Orac, Dr. Knight, please try a bit more coherence. You have now made another testable claim: Oy, looking at that link, I wonder if I should get rid of that horrible old template on the original home of Respectful Insolence.

    A generic Blogger template would be better than that. Now I need to be one with a serger. Nope, autocorrect struck yet again, obviously the spellcheck folks aren't big on sewing vocabulary. Yes it's perfectly safe for you to say what you want. Yes, you have a right to your opinion on treatments, your journey and what has brought you success and why.

    You clearly have me beat on mileage in terms of dealing with autism as a parent. We've altered the diet and removed refined sugars and gluten. I also believe that everything takes time. Should it take years as a baseline?

    I'm hoping not, at a minimum I'm hoping to see some progress from efforts. Since it is a spectrum of disorders your assessment is not fair, in my opinion to say it will take a dozen years. I hope you are not right in my case however, I'll roll with whatever comes my way. As not being a user of any illicit drugs I'm highly concerned.

    This way there is a group of professionals with a wide variety of education and background to help guide me. This may not be a viable option for you for whatever personal reasons you have. As I see it now there is a substantial lack of FDA-related studies on the use of cannabis on young children. Unfortunately until that is viable I'll have to research more, speak to more patients who use, parents who treat and see where I can see and draw a conclusion.

    That and the research of those like Jim Stone and Dr. Constantinou - three who are all very reputable physicians. I want to also mention that three physicians, many accredited like Orac who voted to pass this as a treatment here in Michigan.

    Some work at hospitals a stone's throw away from his medical center. All of them made their determination from years of schooling, experience with patients and countless 's of hours of ongoing training? It's an illegal drug so they would not have any other interests to benefit from.

    Was it just compassion? How would they put their name allowing a schedule 1 narcotic to treat a young child with autism out of just compassion alone? I'm no scholar but I'd venture to say that all of this has some weight, even if it's just to be looked at further. Bring it out of the back rooms and closed parent groups fearing CPS and search and seizure. There are an unbelievable amount of parents with adult children on the spectrum that also advocate and want to try too.

    Lastly I haven't "found medical marijuana" as the articles claimed. I've yet to try on my son but I'm interested enough to advocate for a better, safer opportunity within the confines of the law. Maybe if it's signed in to law you'll give it more consideration too. I don't assume anything of others and never said I knew what was best. I'm learning just like you are. Thank you for giving your perspective on this matter. Clearly you are fighting hard for what you feel is best for your child.

    Knight, you make some excellent points. While we don't know the long-term negative effects on a child's brain, we can reasonably conclude that they are less harmful than many treatments we routinely dispense to children these days. Less than alcohol almost certainly. It does seem as if those who seek legal permission to try untested remedies are harangued by medical authorities who object to their making such attempts. It seems quite inappropriate to the potential for harm involved.

    Cannabis oil seems about as likely to be harmful to children as Lorenzo's oil. Could you tell me what research Dr. Chugani has done regarding cannabis and autism? I just searched PubMed and haven't been able to find a single scientific paper by him addressing the question. Indeed, a search for his name and "cannabinoid" also revealed zero citations.

    I'm not playing "gotcha. By PubMed criteria, Dr.

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